I’ve Diaried it. Hope it achieves your desires Ugo.
And I hope all attendees if they haven’t already, get to view Dr. Sofia Pineda Ochoa’s documentary film “GREENWASHED | Full Documentary [Official]” on YouTube. To me it should be compulsory viewing for anyone discussing the taboo subject of population. The docu-film is in 5 parts, so as it’s a near 3 hour film it would probably be best viewed in 2 or 3 sessions, and 4 or more for those who now commonly suffer from ADHD. If they don’t then it’s just brushing the subject of population under the table🤔
Barry, I am glad that you keep following this blog. But you continue promoting a film that's a piece of propaganda for the oil lobby. Please, think it over!
I’m sorry if you find me an irritation to you Ugo, but getting to the truth is important, wouldn’t you say?
Yes! we’ve been here before, I’ve asked you for proof of your claim “GREENWASHED” is, to quote “a film that's a piece of propaganda for the oil lobby“. I’ve continued since to keep your accusation in mind, to date I haven’t found any proof, and again, today I’ve asked AI/LLM’s. This is typical of the reply they return:
“The accusation that Dr. Sofia Pineda Ochoa’s documentary GREENWASHED is oil lobby propaganda stems entirely from its willingness to critique popular green energy solutions. In today’s highly polarized climate debate, calling out the ecological downsides of things like electric vehicle supply chains, carbon offsetting, or specific renewable energy transitions can easily be misconstrued as an alignment with big oil.
In reality, the film’s perspective is rooted in deep ecological conservation and systemic change, not fossil fuel promotion. Produced by Meat Your Future—an independent, plant-based non-profit co-founded by Dr. Pineda Ochoa—the four-year project takes aim at corporate "greenwashing" and superficial fixes, arguing that mainstream environmentalism often ignores major drivers of ecological collapse like global agriculture and overconsumption.
Ultimately, there is no evidence of corporate energy backing. The film features highly respected environmental figures, such as British broadcaster Chris Packham, and its call for radical degrowth and corporate accountability stands in direct opposition to the interests of the oil and gas industry.”🤔
Barry, I can't tell you exactly why I am sure it is a propaganda piece -- i would risk a defamation suit. But take a look at who produced it. It is clear that they are shills for the oil lobby. Even if you think that these people are doing what they are doing out of pure hearts and minds, the film looks like a propaganda piece, sounds like a propaganda piece, even smells like a propaganda piece (I swear that it generated a certain oil smell from my PC....)
I'm sorry Ugo but on this occasion you are incorrect. Those of us that have followed British naturalist, wildlife photographer, author, and broadcaster Chris Packham can assure you that if there was the slightest whiff of fossil fuel involved in funding or promoting "GREENWASHED" he would not have had anything to do in it, and if he had later found out there was a connection he would have blown the whistle immediately, and denounced it publicly.
While Packham has maintained his broader focus on the systemic climate crisis and media accountability during joint press appearances, his position as the face of the film means he stands firmly behind the documentary's release and its uncompromised editorial direction, despite Monbiot's public allegations of a "stitch-up".
I sincerely hope your opinion in this matter hasn't been coloured by George Monbiot being caught off guard in "GREENWASHED", showing us his lack of knowledge on population numbers and the problems directly related to it, reference: Monbiot published a detailed response across social media and on his personal website titled "Hatewashed: How a new film stitched me up like a kipper," explicitly claiming he was misled, un-challenged during the actual recording, and subjected to a breach of journalistic ethics.
I have the transcript from “GREENWASHED” covering the film’s period 1:49:57 to 2:00:47, whether Monbiot, was right or wrong over what could be called an ambushed gotcha interview it certainly exposes his acumen, and depth of his knowledge🤔 E&OE
dear professor ugo bardi are we still declining through fewer birth's and older people living longer or will we stil go down because resource collapse malthusian collapse or running out of fossil fuels ?
I’ve Diaried it. Hope it achieves your desires Ugo.
And I hope all attendees if they haven’t already, get to view Dr. Sofia Pineda Ochoa’s documentary film “GREENWASHED | Full Documentary [Official]” on YouTube. To me it should be compulsory viewing for anyone discussing the taboo subject of population. The docu-film is in 5 parts, so as it’s a near 3 hour film it would probably be best viewed in 2 or 3 sessions, and 4 or more for those who now commonly suffer from ADHD. If they don’t then it’s just brushing the subject of population under the table🤔
Barry, I am glad that you keep following this blog. But you continue promoting a film that's a piece of propaganda for the oil lobby. Please, think it over!
I’m sorry if you find me an irritation to you Ugo, but getting to the truth is important, wouldn’t you say?
Yes! we’ve been here before, I’ve asked you for proof of your claim “GREENWASHED” is, to quote “a film that's a piece of propaganda for the oil lobby“. I’ve continued since to keep your accusation in mind, to date I haven’t found any proof, and again, today I’ve asked AI/LLM’s. This is typical of the reply they return:
“The accusation that Dr. Sofia Pineda Ochoa’s documentary GREENWASHED is oil lobby propaganda stems entirely from its willingness to critique popular green energy solutions. In today’s highly polarized climate debate, calling out the ecological downsides of things like electric vehicle supply chains, carbon offsetting, or specific renewable energy transitions can easily be misconstrued as an alignment with big oil.
In reality, the film’s perspective is rooted in deep ecological conservation and systemic change, not fossil fuel promotion. Produced by Meat Your Future—an independent, plant-based non-profit co-founded by Dr. Pineda Ochoa—the four-year project takes aim at corporate "greenwashing" and superficial fixes, arguing that mainstream environmentalism often ignores major drivers of ecological collapse like global agriculture and overconsumption.
Ultimately, there is no evidence of corporate energy backing. The film features highly respected environmental figures, such as British broadcaster Chris Packham, and its call for radical degrowth and corporate accountability stands in direct opposition to the interests of the oil and gas industry.”🤔
Barry, I can't tell you exactly why I am sure it is a propaganda piece -- i would risk a defamation suit. But take a look at who produced it. It is clear that they are shills for the oil lobby. Even if you think that these people are doing what they are doing out of pure hearts and minds, the film looks like a propaganda piece, sounds like a propaganda piece, even smells like a propaganda piece (I swear that it generated a certain oil smell from my PC....)
BTW. No irritation. I am happy to discuss with you.
I’m pleased to hear that✌️
I'm sorry Ugo but on this occasion you are incorrect. Those of us that have followed British naturalist, wildlife photographer, author, and broadcaster Chris Packham can assure you that if there was the slightest whiff of fossil fuel involved in funding or promoting "GREENWASHED" he would not have had anything to do in it, and if he had later found out there was a connection he would have blown the whistle immediately, and denounced it publicly.
While Packham has maintained his broader focus on the systemic climate crisis and media accountability during joint press appearances, his position as the face of the film means he stands firmly behind the documentary's release and its uncompromised editorial direction, despite Monbiot's public allegations of a "stitch-up".
I sincerely hope your opinion in this matter hasn't been coloured by George Monbiot being caught off guard in "GREENWASHED", showing us his lack of knowledge on population numbers and the problems directly related to it, reference: Monbiot published a detailed response across social media and on his personal website titled "Hatewashed: How a new film stitched me up like a kipper," explicitly claiming he was misled, un-challenged during the actual recording, and subjected to a breach of journalistic ethics.
I have the transcript from “GREENWASHED” covering the film’s period 1:49:57 to 2:00:47, whether Monbiot, was right or wrong over what could be called an ambushed gotcha interview it certainly exposes his acumen, and depth of his knowledge🤔 E&OE
dear professor ugo bardi are we still declining through fewer birth's and older people living longer or will we stil go down because resource collapse malthusian collapse or running out of fossil fuels ?
Put it in this way: you'll see things that none of your ancestors in the past 100.000 years saw. It is a privilege!
ugo do you mean most of us will die than or that people who are currently alive will grow older ?