Yes.... It sounds to me a bit strange to think that wars occurs when accumulating wealth reach a certain level. In many case, it seems quite the contrary : wars rather happen when there is not enough ressources to sustain wealth at this given level.
The landslide occurs not because of one more grain of sand is added to the pile but because there is not enough moisture left between the grains to maintain them together.
And that would make wars much more predictable as they tend to happen when one declining hegemon order is not sustainable anymore and thus, challenged by lesser powers.
Which is, given the actual global situation, all the more worrying...
On this point, I make the example of the Roman Empire. When they started running out of resources, initially they thought to get what they needed by wars. Then, they sobered up, and they stopped trying to expand, concentrating instead on keeping what they had. Not that wars disappeared, but the neighbors could stop worrying about being invaded.
The North African grain fields which supplied the empire declined from forced overproduction and bad weather, and the Spanish silver mines to mint coinage played out, plus, the elites owned everything, so there was little "citizenry".
It exhausted Rome. History moves faster now, with AI algorithmic trading on "markets" being analogous to Spanish silver mines.
It is hard to perfectly extend the analogy, but "leaders" fleeing to save their skins is something we should always expect to see as a sign of regime-change.
Have they considered a version of Turchin's theory that societal collapses follow a period where there is excess production of elites, and therefore not enough elite positions to go around? Perhaps that is also the case before major wars, in which the dispossessed junior elites gamble on gaining the necessary status through warfare, and that triggers the spread of the smaller war...
Hello Ugo. While it's certainly true that "A small group of fanatics can provoke a major war." Especially if externaly financed, I don't have the background to understand the math behind the power laws graphic you posted.
All I can think is that a bigger population involved leads to more deaths, obviously, and you wouldn't bother to post that.
Also obviously it takes money and manpower to make a war out of an incident, but is there anyway to know which incidents are likely to explode? I assume not, but maybe ...
You wrote: "That doesn’t mean no evil forces are acting to create wars; it means that they are not masterminding the process." The term "masterminding" suggests a process by which events are set in motion by people who expect to benefit from the expected outcome. To me, the evidence suggests that there are people who indeed are intentionally setting events in motion to this end, but perhaps the true hazard lies in their delusional belief that they can control the outcome. I suspect those people are in way over their heads and just don't realize it yet.
Ellen Brown explains: THE GREAT TAKING: HOW THEY CAN OWN IT ALL
[The "you will own nothing" part is completely ready to "go live".]
See also Greg Morse, ‘Who Owns America? Cede & DTCC’, and A. Freed, ‘Who Really Owns Your Money? Part I, The DTCC’). Cede & Co. is now the owner of record of all of our stocks, bonds, digitised securities, mortgages, and more; and it is seriously under-capitalised, holding capital of only $3.5 billion, clearly not enough to satisfy all the potential derivative claims. Webb thinks this is intentional.
What happens if the DTCC goes bankrupt? Under The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (BAPCPA) of 2005, derivatives have ‘super-priority’ in bankruptcy. (The BAPCPA actually protects the banks and derivative claimants rather than consumers; it was the same act that eliminated bankruptcy protection for students).
Derivative claimants don’t even need to go through the bankruptcy court but can simply nab the collateral from the bankrupt estate, leaving nothing for the other secured creditors (including state and local governments) or the banks’ unsecured creditors (including us, the depositors). And in this case the ‘bankrupt estate’ – the holdings of the DTCC/Cede & Co. – includes all of our stocks, bonds, digitized securities, mortgages, and more.
It sounds like conspiracy theory, but it’s all laid out in the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC), tested in precedent, and validated by court rulings. The UCC is a privately-established set of standardised rules for transacting business, which has been ratified by all 50 states and includes key provisions that have been ‘harmonised’ with the laws of other countries in the Western orbit...
..Webb summarises in the introduction:
“It is about the taking of collateral (all of it), the end game of the current globally synchronous debt accumulation super cycle. This scheme is being executed by long-planned, intelligent design, the audacity and scope of which is difficult for the mind to encompass. Included are all financial assets and bank deposits, all stocks and bonds; and hence, all underlying property of all public corporations, including all inventories, plant and equipment; land, mineral deposits, inventions and intellectual property. Privately owned personal and real property financed with any amount of debt will likewise be taken, as will the assets of privately owned businesses which have been financed with debt. If even partially successful, this will be the greatest conquest and subjugation in world history.” ...
..“Cede technically owns most of the publicly issued stock in the United States. Thus, most investors do not themselves hold direct property rights in stock, but rather have contractual rights that are part of a chain of contractual rights involving Cede. Securities held at Depository Trust Company are registered in its nominee name, Cede & Co., and recorded on its books in the name of the brokerage firm through which they were purchased; on the brokerage firm’s books they are assigned to the accounts of their beneficial owners.” ...
..As for timing, Webb says just the movement in interest rates, from 0.25 per cent to 5.5 per cent, should have collapsed the market already. He thinks it is being held up artificially, while ‘they’ get the necessary systems in place.
Where to save your personal monies? Big derivative banks are risky, and Webb thinks credit unions and smaller banks will go down with the market if there is a general collapse, as happened in the Great Depression. Gold and silver are good but hard to spend on groceries. Keeping some emergency cash on hand is important, and so is growing your own food if you have space for a garden.
Yes.... It sounds to me a bit strange to think that wars occurs when accumulating wealth reach a certain level. In many case, it seems quite the contrary : wars rather happen when there is not enough ressources to sustain wealth at this given level.
The landslide occurs not because of one more grain of sand is added to the pile but because there is not enough moisture left between the grains to maintain them together.
And that would make wars much more predictable as they tend to happen when one declining hegemon order is not sustainable anymore and thus, challenged by lesser powers.
Which is, given the actual global situation, all the more worrying...
On this point, I make the example of the Roman Empire. When they started running out of resources, initially they thought to get what they needed by wars. Then, they sobered up, and they stopped trying to expand, concentrating instead on keeping what they had. Not that wars disappeared, but the neighbors could stop worrying about being invaded.
The North African grain fields which supplied the empire declined from forced overproduction and bad weather, and the Spanish silver mines to mint coinage played out, plus, the elites owned everything, so there was little "citizenry".
"Gradually, then all at once."
Yes, but the "at once" lasted a few centuries for the Roman Empire.
It exhausted Rome. History moves faster now, with AI algorithmic trading on "markets" being analogous to Spanish silver mines.
It is hard to perfectly extend the analogy, but "leaders" fleeing to save their skins is something we should always expect to see as a sign of regime-change.
We are participants, not observers-only, in the co-creation of reality as we proceed through time.
This is a critical time in a critical period, just ahead of collapse-of-the-dominant-financial-paradigm.
Chaotic periods are highly-influenced by "initial conditions".
We need to be maximally proactive as these "initial conditions" are put into place in OUR world.
Divine Guidance helps if heard and followed.
Have they considered a version of Turchin's theory that societal collapses follow a period where there is excess production of elites, and therefore not enough elite positions to go around? Perhaps that is also the case before major wars, in which the dispossessed junior elites gamble on gaining the necessary status through warfare, and that triggers the spread of the smaller war...
Hello Ugo. While it's certainly true that "A small group of fanatics can provoke a major war." Especially if externaly financed, I don't have the background to understand the math behind the power laws graphic you posted.
All I can think is that a bigger population involved leads to more deaths, obviously, and you wouldn't bother to post that.
Also obviously it takes money and manpower to make a war out of an incident, but is there anyway to know which incidents are likely to explode? I assume not, but maybe ...
You wrote: "That doesn’t mean no evil forces are acting to create wars; it means that they are not masterminding the process." The term "masterminding" suggests a process by which events are set in motion by people who expect to benefit from the expected outcome. To me, the evidence suggests that there are people who indeed are intentionally setting events in motion to this end, but perhaps the true hazard lies in their delusional belief that they can control the outcome. I suspect those people are in way over their heads and just don't realize it yet.
I meant masterminded by a central agency of evil -- a sort of real Sauron. But I wasn't so clear. I'll see to retouch that sentence. And thanks!
Ellen Brown explains: THE GREAT TAKING: HOW THEY CAN OWN IT ALL
[The "you will own nothing" part is completely ready to "go live".]
See also Greg Morse, ‘Who Owns America? Cede & DTCC’, and A. Freed, ‘Who Really Owns Your Money? Part I, The DTCC’). Cede & Co. is now the owner of record of all of our stocks, bonds, digitised securities, mortgages, and more; and it is seriously under-capitalised, holding capital of only $3.5 billion, clearly not enough to satisfy all the potential derivative claims. Webb thinks this is intentional.
What happens if the DTCC goes bankrupt? Under The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act (BAPCPA) of 2005, derivatives have ‘super-priority’ in bankruptcy. (The BAPCPA actually protects the banks and derivative claimants rather than consumers; it was the same act that eliminated bankruptcy protection for students).
Derivative claimants don’t even need to go through the bankruptcy court but can simply nab the collateral from the bankrupt estate, leaving nothing for the other secured creditors (including state and local governments) or the banks’ unsecured creditors (including us, the depositors). And in this case the ‘bankrupt estate’ – the holdings of the DTCC/Cede & Co. – includes all of our stocks, bonds, digitized securities, mortgages, and more.
It sounds like conspiracy theory, but it’s all laid out in the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC), tested in precedent, and validated by court rulings. The UCC is a privately-established set of standardised rules for transacting business, which has been ratified by all 50 states and includes key provisions that have been ‘harmonised’ with the laws of other countries in the Western orbit...
..Webb summarises in the introduction:
“It is about the taking of collateral (all of it), the end game of the current globally synchronous debt accumulation super cycle. This scheme is being executed by long-planned, intelligent design, the audacity and scope of which is difficult for the mind to encompass. Included are all financial assets and bank deposits, all stocks and bonds; and hence, all underlying property of all public corporations, including all inventories, plant and equipment; land, mineral deposits, inventions and intellectual property. Privately owned personal and real property financed with any amount of debt will likewise be taken, as will the assets of privately owned businesses which have been financed with debt. If even partially successful, this will be the greatest conquest and subjugation in world history.” ...
..“Cede technically owns most of the publicly issued stock in the United States. Thus, most investors do not themselves hold direct property rights in stock, but rather have contractual rights that are part of a chain of contractual rights involving Cede. Securities held at Depository Trust Company are registered in its nominee name, Cede & Co., and recorded on its books in the name of the brokerage firm through which they were purchased; on the brokerage firm’s books they are assigned to the accounts of their beneficial owners.” ...
..As for timing, Webb says just the movement in interest rates, from 0.25 per cent to 5.5 per cent, should have collapsed the market already. He thinks it is being held up artificially, while ‘they’ get the necessary systems in place.
Where to save your personal monies? Big derivative banks are risky, and Webb thinks credit unions and smaller banks will go down with the market if there is a general collapse, as happened in the Great Depression. Gold and silver are good but hard to spend on groceries. Keeping some emergency cash on hand is important, and so is growing your own food if you have space for a garden.
https://radixuk.org/opinion/the-great-taking-how-they-can-own-it-all/#respond
World Wars are the context within which the global system of finance, trade and investment may be re-set.