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Matthew's avatar

So perhaps the big political divide is between those who want to live in a nation state and those who want to be part of an empire.

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Very nice explanation, is very concerning China too, as country China is a peculiar form of Nation State based on Han genealogy, rulers usually could be of different lineage (as Mongolian of Yuan dynasty) still the Confucian Han still come back and set the rules. Today, the limit of a "global Chinese empire" can be traced on your reasoning!

Empire have a founding on something that is universally valuable to humans, Roma empire was all about Lex, streets and building (streets, baths and aqueducts principally), the next European empire to shine was the Spanish one(Spain-Portugal) with oceanic navigation and global commercial routes, next in line was French one with science and Enlightenment (base of mechanization), the next step is the English empire with steam and railroads followed by duopoly of the USA and URSS with air travel, electrification and telecommunication. The common offer of all empires is a form of PAX, the might to subdue and pacify, is a necessary but not sufficient element: we had a Mongol Empire to testify it, could subdue and pacify almost all continental Asia still had to import culture, tech and lifestyle (they got to be the Yuan dynasty) and acted as a roaming army waiting a sufficient strong enemy to stop them, barbarians as defined by any other self-respecting empire or nation state even if very succesfull ones.

All the vassals of empire keep deep-rooted in themselves the "gift" of the previous rulers a build from it, this explains why the "Imperial Eagle" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Imperial_Eagle) is both on the USA and URSS/Russian official symbology, they have the same roots! Today seems that the "west" is more or less conceived as the descendant of Roman's axiom, it extends quite well to Russia and South America, the advantage of this inheritance is a peculiar openness to integrate and a disposition to rule by Lex. Emerging powers today seems more a kind of Nation States "big enough" but that are struggling with internal contradictions to become next global power, China have to drop his ethnic and Confucian expectations and India have to drop all his caste system, without this step we will always see the people of these giants to dream to come under Aquila rule for a better life.

Today we have probably reached a tech syngularity, the drop in fertility rate is so universal that his origin must be transversal and systemic and only technology is so pervasive, diffuse and all encompassing. Empires and Nation States probably are collapsing into something that is behoind the next event orizon, this could explain why both are failing, what we need is not in the past that had exausted his possibilityes but we didn't have now a concept for it so no words or mental hinstruments to undersatand what is coming...

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