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Max Rottersman's avatar

Also from Grok: " Some will fight—over the last barrels, over pipeline control, over who gets the green tech first. Others will adapt, either by choice or necessity, scaling down energy use and rethinking daily life. The wildcard is how fast it happens. A slow decline gives time to adjust; a sudden drop could ignite chaos. Either way, human history suggests we’re not great at sharing nicely when the pie shrinks."

Also from Grok, about "Mousetopia":

"In the final phases, particularly after day 600, the mice’s interactions became deeply dysfunctional. Many females turned aggressive, abandoning or even attacking their young, leading to infant mortality rates as high as 90% in some areas. Males exhibited a range of extreme behaviors: some became hyper-aggressive, engaging in unprovoked violence, cannibalism, and abnormal sexual activity, including assaulting both males and females. Others, dubbed “the beautiful ones,” withdrew entirely—sleek and healthy from constant grooming, they avoided all social interaction, including mating or fighting, and lived in isolation, eating and sleeping alone.

By the end, the colony was a shadow of its early days. The few remaining mice showed no interest in rebuilding social bonds or reproducing. Even when some were removed and placed with normal mice, they remained withdrawn, unable to reintegrate. The last births occurred around day 600, and the population dwindled until the colony went extinct by day 1,720, in May 1973. In essence, the mice treated each other with either violent hostility or complete indifference, marking the collapse of their once-thriving society."

We're already seeing elements of both.

Solar panels can be stolen and wind turbines and their infrastructure will cost a lot in maintenance and security

Finally, there is NO REPLACEMENT for diesel or jet-fuel. Those who have it will have the military to force their own pathological ideas about who deservers to live or die (see Israel/Gaza).

Sorry to be the wet blanket ;)

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Tris's avatar

However, all this calculation remains perfectly theoretical...

Nothing says that these 800 billion actually exist. Not just that they could exist on paper, but that they could correspond to tangible resources and energy that could be imported into Europe...

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