Gaza is completely surrounded. Israel controls everything that goes in. Yemen, Congo and Sudan are open. The subject is forced starvation, not starvation as an effect of war.
To ask if Ugo is complicit in a "blood libel" is quite the question. But what does it have to do with the subject of starvation in Gaza? The story explains the complex aspects of starvation. What does it have to do with "blood libel"?
Iuval, we are not reading the same story. Ugo wrote about how starvation does not happen as we intuitively expect it. He posted the explanation from someone else. I found the story very interesting because I too didn't understand the complexities involved.
You accuse him of a "blood libel". That's just plain rude (to say the least). Now he's "Catholics such as Ugo"? And I'm supposedly convinced too that Jews are drinking babies' blood?
Ugo writes for independent thinkers to who take care to understand various issues. The topic of his post is what might happen IF the IDF is starving Gaza. Maybe it's not. But that has nothing to do with blood libels, Catholicism, etc. It's a physical question. It has nothing to do with right or wrong.
What Ugo has pointed out is IF (and it's a big if--keep your composure) there is forced starvation in Gaza IF there is, it cannot be stopped once it reaches a certain point.
You might write a story about your opinions on that matter. Or find a story that discusses those topics. I get it that you're frustrated. But what real discussion can you have when you lead with accusations, of any type?
Are you saying that the state of Israel, and its citizens who are not protesting against the war, are NOT Liable for the intentional slaughter through every possible means, of Palestinian children, families and society?
How would you assert such a lack of liability for the innocent blood?
"Israelis" have become their most famous enemy, have they not?
"Though many on the left have lost patience after October 7th, when leftists Kibutsniks and ravers, the best friends and advocates of the Palestinians, were butchered."
All of the burned bodies were from Israeli "Hellfire" missiles. All of the dead in cars and trucks were killed by IDF. The houses of Israeli hostages blown up by Israeli tanks are well documented. It may well be that over half of that "slaughter" was the carrying out of the "Hannibal Directive" against Israeli civilians (for the first time) as well as against Israeli solder-hostages.
"Lavender" is Israel's AI targeting program, which ramps up targets just beyond what the Israeli air force can actually bomb, "justifying" the massive ""collateral damage" of the "where's daddy" program, killing entire apartment blocks for one Hamas member who might be at home.
Formally, the Lavender system is designed to mark all suspected operatives in the military wings of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), including low-ranking ones, as potential bombing targets. The sources told +972 and Local Call that, during the first weeks of the war, the army almost completely relied on Lavender, which clocked as many as 37,000 Palestinians as suspected militants — and their homes — for possible air strikes.
You seem to present an analysis that Hamas will kill all Israelis unless Israel kills Hamas (all Palestinians, effectively).
Hamas, militarily resisting illegal Israeli military occupation, is justified under international law.
Israel is not justified under international law,and is enacting war crimes, mass-retribution, and Genocide.
The widely agreed "solution" is the 2-state solution with 1967 agreed borders, as Russia and China bothe demand,and the UN decided in 1967.
All people in both distributions should have all human rights guaranteed by local laws, and Palestinian people should have the UN agreed right of return to family lands, from which they were driven in the 1948 "Nakba", "catastrophe.
What is happening in Gaza is Israel's "final solution" of complete genocide of the native Palestinian people, who have occupied those lands for many thousands of years,and are genetically indistinguishable from the native Jewish people who have also been there, peacefully coexisting under Ottoman rule, until the 1917 Balfour Declaration, a "favor" from the UK/Lord Balfour to Lord Rothschild.
Iuval, I don't know who you are, or what you are. Maybe you are a human being, maybe you are a bot. Maybe you are paid by the Hasbara, maybe you say what you say because you believe in it. It doesn't matter: think about what you are doing and what you are saying. You are overtaken by hate. Hate is taking possession of your mind and your soul and it is destroying you from inside. And evil generated by hate is nearly unstoppable, except by love. God loves all of us; I am sure He loves bots, too. Think about that.
Thanks Ugo. I have forwarded this to my old college friend, Dan White, who I still see regularly here in Austin.
He had shared that quote with me when he sent it out.
I think he'll be moderately pleased that it is getting around.
Gaza is completely surrounded. Israel controls everything that goes in. Yemen, Congo and Sudan are open. The subject is forced starvation, not starvation as an effect of war.
To ask if Ugo is complicit in a "blood libel" is quite the question. But what does it have to do with the subject of starvation in Gaza? The story explains the complex aspects of starvation. What does it have to do with "blood libel"?
Iuval, we are not reading the same story. Ugo wrote about how starvation does not happen as we intuitively expect it. He posted the explanation from someone else. I found the story very interesting because I too didn't understand the complexities involved.
You accuse him of a "blood libel". That's just plain rude (to say the least). Now he's "Catholics such as Ugo"? And I'm supposedly convinced too that Jews are drinking babies' blood?
Ugo writes for independent thinkers to who take care to understand various issues. The topic of his post is what might happen IF the IDF is starving Gaza. Maybe it's not. But that has nothing to do with blood libels, Catholicism, etc. It's a physical question. It has nothing to do with right or wrong.
What Ugo has pointed out is IF (and it's a big if--keep your composure) there is forced starvation in Gaza IF there is, it cannot be stopped once it reaches a certain point.
You might write a story about your opinions on that matter. Or find a story that discusses those topics. I get it that you're frustrated. But what real discussion can you have when you lead with accusations, of any type?
Miserable
Are you saying that the state of Israel, and its citizens who are not protesting against the war, are NOT Liable for the intentional slaughter through every possible means, of Palestinian children, families and society?
How would you assert such a lack of liability for the innocent blood?
"Israelis" have become their most famous enemy, have they not?
"Though many on the left have lost patience after October 7th, when leftists Kibutsniks and ravers, the best friends and advocates of the Palestinians, were butchered."
All of the burned bodies were from Israeli "Hellfire" missiles. All of the dead in cars and trucks were killed by IDF. The houses of Israeli hostages blown up by Israeli tanks are well documented. It may well be that over half of that "slaughter" was the carrying out of the "Hannibal Directive" against Israeli civilians (for the first time) as well as against Israeli solder-hostages.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israeli-army-investigation-suggests-many-7-october-casualties-caused-friendly-fire
Israeli army investigation suggests many 7 October casualties caused by friendly fire
The findings of the Israeli report are consistent with the results of a UN inquiry earlier this month
https://news.sky.com/story/idf-admits-israeli-security-completely-failed-when-hamas-launched-october-7-attack-13318202
Haaretz: IDF Ordered Hannibal Directive on October 7 to Prevent Hamas Taking Soldiers Captive
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-ordered-hannibal-directive-on-october-7-to-prevent-hamas-taking-soldiers-captive/00000190-89a2-d776-a3b1-fdbe45520000
You took exception with this statement, I think:
"All of the burned bodies were from Israeli "Hellfire" missiles."
The Palestinian/Hamas & others, commando groups were not armed with any incendiary munitions, none.
The only incendiary munitions were fired by Israeli forces, the Hellfire missiles launched from helicopters.
"Lavender" is Israel's AI targeting program, which ramps up targets just beyond what the Israeli air force can actually bomb, "justifying" the massive ""collateral damage" of the "where's daddy" program, killing entire apartment blocks for one Hamas member who might be at home.
https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/
Formally, the Lavender system is designed to mark all suspected operatives in the military wings of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), including low-ranking ones, as potential bombing targets. The sources told +972 and Local Call that, during the first weeks of the war, the army almost completely relied on Lavender, which clocked as many as 37,000 Palestinians as suspected militants — and their homes — for possible air strikes.
Yes, it is remarkably simple. I believe I am explaining myself fairly well.
All people are equal and there are pertinent international laws.
Please see below.
You seem to present an analysis that Hamas will kill all Israelis unless Israel kills Hamas (all Palestinians, effectively).
Hamas, militarily resisting illegal Israeli military occupation, is justified under international law.
Israel is not justified under international law,and is enacting war crimes, mass-retribution, and Genocide.
The widely agreed "solution" is the 2-state solution with 1967 agreed borders, as Russia and China bothe demand,and the UN decided in 1967.
All people in both distributions should have all human rights guaranteed by local laws, and Palestinian people should have the UN agreed right of return to family lands, from which they were driven in the 1948 "Nakba", "catastrophe.
Asesino.
"Everybody I disagree with is literally Hitler."
What corollaries arise from that, friend?
What is happening in Gaza is Israel's "final solution" of complete genocide of the native Palestinian people, who have occupied those lands for many thousands of years,and are genetically indistinguishable from the native Jewish people who have also been there, peacefully coexisting under Ottoman rule, until the 1917 Balfour Declaration, a "favor" from the UK/Lord Balfour to Lord Rothschild.
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2018/11/2/more-than-a-century-on-the-balfour-declaration-explained
Are Jews killing Palestinian babies & children & pregnant mothers? Are you complicit in it?
Iuval, I don't know who you are, or what you are. Maybe you are a human being, maybe you are a bot. Maybe you are paid by the Hasbara, maybe you say what you say because you believe in it. It doesn't matter: think about what you are doing and what you are saying. You are overtaken by hate. Hate is taking possession of your mind and your soul and it is destroying you from inside. And evil generated by hate is nearly unstoppable, except by love. God loves all of us; I am sure He loves bots, too. Think about that.