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"But the extermination of civilians by aerial bombing of cities during WW2 was also impressively evil. And the (evil) Empire doesn't seem to have lost its taste for genocide, given whatโ€™s happening now."

Indeed.

It seems common enough for ideologies, modern or ancient, to believe in the rightness and necessity of the evil they do.

For example, looking back there is written documentation including argument and justification for the horrific forced conversion of the northern Saxons by Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor). We can recognise common antecedents even now. In the modern case, my surname sadly associates with the perpetrator of aerial atrocities of revenge with little military gain.

Arnold Toynbee collected studies of past empires, which point up your general point of rise and fall. (And there were dark ages before 'our' dark age.) Perhaps we can distinguish between 'empires' and 'civilisations'? Even now it might be that other existing civilisations will handle the limits to industrialisation better than the recent lead nation and its historical background?

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The counter-intuitive ๐Ÿฟ๏ธ's avatar

the flag is totally wrong and it is technology and capitalism, and not America as the โ€œEmpireโ€. Read 1992 Michael Hardt Antonio Negri book โ€œEmpireโ€

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